On circumcision/genital mutilation.

I think circumcision generally falls under what we can refer to as unnecessary harm, I don’t support it.

1 – It’s painful in the moment or afterwards.

Either while you’re being circumcised if it’s done by some primitive religious moron without anesthesia, or definitely afterwards.

Perhaps if you’re young enough while it happens, you won’t remember it later, but I fail to see how that is supposed to be a justification. Let’s say I could torture someone for hours, but then give them a hypothetical pill that will make them forget all of it.

The fact that the torture happened in the moment while they were being tortured is bad enough, it doesn’t matter if they remember or forget it.

2 – It can also cause long term suffering by decreasing your ability to obtain sexual relief/satisfaction.

Here people will of course argue back and forth about if circumcision has any effect on your sexual pleasure or not. Some will claim yes it decreased their ability to feel pleasure (I am in that category), some might even say it increased their ability to feel pleasure to get cut because they had some kind of problem with their tight foreskin beforehand and just didn’t use all options to try to retract them, whatever it may be.

But just looking at the most obvious facts, it seems non-sensical to me to claim it has no decreasing effect. Yes, you are cutting skin that contains sensitive nerves off of your dick (it’d be weird if that in itself didn’t take any feelings away), and once that is done, your glans will no longer be constantly protected by anything wrapped around it, so it’s free to rub against your pants all the time, prone to the process of keratinization.

Forcing an internal organ to be an external organ, so to speak. Would it not be reasonable to say that if instead of walking on your feet, you learned to walk on your hands, your hands would become kind of desensitized over time? I play guitar, so the fingers that I put on the strings become less sensitive over time, they’re constantly exposed to pressure.

If you constantly expose something and it is not protected, it generally tends to become less sensitive to fine touch, yes. Does that take some kind of Einstein genius to come up with that theory?

3 – Benefits seem little to non-existent to make up for the harm/loss.

Hygiene? Do you live in a third world shithole with no access to soap? I doubt it anyway though, I know just from my personal experience in the past that when I sweat and jizzed, and I have no protective skin around my glans to stop lints and dirt from getting stuck in and glued to my glans, it does in fact get stuck in and glue to my glans. How exactly is that more hygienic?

But whatever, yes, wash yourself.

Less likely to get certain STDs? Contraception, again, not impossible, no need to resort to such drastic measures when it can be solved more comfortably.

Penile cancer? Almost no one gets penile cancer, you can also take other measures not to get cancer like living a healthy lifestyle/not smoking, and wouldn’t that also justify cutting all girls breasts off because then they can never get cancer in them? Breast cancer is certainly more likely than cancer in your genitals, penile cancer is extremely rare.

How about you just ask them what they want if it’s not absolutely necessary? Same for your tonsils even, I don’t think it would have as negative of an effect on someone as being circumcised or having breasts cut off, but still, why do it if it’s completely unnecessary in that moment?

Yes, if you cut x part of your body off, that part cannot become infected or riddled with cancer anymore…so therefore cut it all off?

Phimosis? This is the only one that is kind of more controversial, but it’s not really unsolvable either, there are specific creams and stretching exercises to retract your foreskin without having to cut it, and you can also only get partially circumcised and not tightly if nothing else helps.

Overall I think this is a barbaric and backward ritual, I don’t think it’s unfair or inconsiderate or anything to criticize the ones doing it, the reasons people give for it are frequently pathetically shallow.

Often it’s supported by religious morons who think children should be property, ”parents have a right to choose for children” – maybe if it’s harmless and/or necessary, but not when you’re inflicting unnecessary harm/pain/suffering on them like strapping them to a table and cutting their skin off, or beating them with a hammer, or sticking needles in them, etc based on thinking that invisible creatures exist and command you to do so.

Religion should never be an argument here, that’s just saying you live in a fantasy world and believe in invisible creatures for which you have no evidence, so that’s why you inflicting potentially intense harm/pain/suffering on others is justified, the easter bunny said I have to shove my fist in an infant’s vagina, so it’s fine basically.

Same goes for a parent’s petty aesthetic preferences, who cares what you think looks pretty? Should you also be allowed to cut up your daughter’s vagina or breasts to make them look more pleasant to your liking?

Then we have the feminist morons that are completely apathetic to any plight men face and just state that female genital mutilation is worse than male genital mutilation. It depends on how you do it is simply the answer here, so this is just wrong to categorically state FGM is worse than MGM, by default, always.

You can cut off the skin around the clitoris, this is more similar to cutting foreskin off. Some primitive cultures cut the entire vagina open, yes, but some primitive cultures also cut the entire dick open and stick their dicks in the cut open dick, it’s a matter of how you’re mutilating them.

It doesn’t matter though, I could also say ”look, feminists, anal rape is worse than sexual harassment, therefore sexual harassment isn’t a big deal, so shut the fuck up”. This is fallacy of relative privation, A and B are both bad, but B is worse than A, so therefore we’re going to pretend A is now good. Having two arms amputated is worse than only one arm, so therefore having one arm amputated somehow isn’t a big deal? That’s just non-sense.

And I’m sure you can find more obscure reasons why people do it, but these tend to be the common sayings/standards. In conclusion, I see no point in the ritual/practice.